Host: Welcome to
Who Does Bush Know? A tough game of cat and mouse, hide and seek and press secretary poker.
Our contestants today are Scotty McClellan and Ari Fleischer.
Ari, What has the President said in private about
Ken Lay (indicted former CEO of Enron)? Does he still consider him a good friend? And would he take money from him in the future? Ari: Well, I think he was asked that question -- a similar question in the Oval Office. Ken Lay is and was a supporter of the President. And it doesn't matter. A criminal investigation is going to proceed. And the President wants to make sure that that criminal investigation will take itself wherever it needs to go, and that justice should be done. And it doesn't matter who was involved, whether they knew the President or didn't know the President. The Department of Justice is undertaking a criminal review.... There is no question, Ken Lay is and was a supporter, friend of the President's. But I think it also is no surprise to anybody that companies like Enron Corporation play both sides of the street. (
no mention of Lay's personal contributions) They give money to candidates and politicians in both parties (
significantly leaning republican). That is what Enron has done in many cases, and I think the numbers are half the Senate and three-quarters of the House, or vice-versa, have received funding from Enron (some, but
not significant by comparison).
Host: Scott, tell us about Bush's relationship with Jack Abramoff, staff meetings, Abramoff's membership on Bush's transition team?
Scott: Well, I indicated yesterday that I think there were some -- a few staff-level meetings. But, no, I'm making sure that I have a thorough report back to you on that. And I'll get that to you, hopefully very soon. [Regarding the transition team for the Dept of Interior] In terms of any individual agency, I think you'd have to go and check with the people who were involved in that transition. In terms of the overall transition effort, I mean, we had an office that was running -- I was very involved in that effort -- and he wasn't a member of the staff of any of the transition team here in Washington, D.C. But in terms of --
Earlier: Yes, I said it’s possible that they would have met at a holiday reception or some other widely attended gathering. The President does not know him, nor does the President recall ever meeting him.... But I just told you what I know at this point, and the President doesn’t recall meeting him and he certainly doesn’t know him.
Later: I did check. There were a few staff-level meetings. As I indicated there were -- I think I previously indicated that he attended three Hanukkah receptions at the White House. It is actually only two Hanukkah receptions that he attended.
Host: So who does Bush know? Heckofajob Brownie for one. Brownie has now changed his story. Under oath before Congress, the Katrina disaster wasn't his fault.
Now it is. Bush also knows Sammy "Machine Gun" Alito, champion of overreaching law enforcement and Bush's unitary exective dream. But George W. Bush is lonely knowing so few people. To cheer our president up, some of his NSA agents are listening in on your phone calls and reading your emails and letters to find some suitable new friends for him. Bush's next friend may be you!
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Want the truth about who Bush knows? See
this article in Common Dreams regaring the Bush/Kenny Boy Lay relationship:
In the
Nation magazine, [Kevin}]Phillips argued that, "most of the Washington press corps has been content to leave alone the much larger story—the apparent seventeen-year connection between the Bush dynasty and Enron. Even without such information, it seems clear, counting campaign contributions, consultancies, joint investments, deals, presidential library and inaugural contributions, speech fees and the like, that the Bush family and entourage collected some $8 million to $10 million from Enron over the years, which is more than changed hands in Harding's Teapot Dome scandal. Depending on some still-unclear relationships, it could be as high as $25 million."
See
Capitol Hill Blue on the Bush/Abramoff relationship:
“Bush tapped Abramoff as member of his Presidential Transition Team, advising the administration on policy and hiring at the Interior Department, which oversees Native American issues,” writes Richard Wolfe and Holly Baily in Newsweek.... In fact, Abramoff’s close ties with Bush go back to 1997 when the then Governor of Texas wrote a letter on the lobbyist’s behalf supporting his Marianas island client’s school choice proposal.... In April 2002, The National Journal reported: "Last summer, in an effort to raise the visibility of his Indian clients, Abramoff helped arrange a White House get-together on tax issues with President Bush for top Indian leaders, including Lovelin Poncho, the chairman of the Coushattas." Poncho first denied the meeting took place, but later changed his story in an interview with the Texas Observer. He now confirms Abramoff attended the meeting with Bush and says Bush greeted the lobbyist warmly “like an old friend.”
The only real mystery is what was Jack's Bush-created nickname. How about Jailbird Jack?