Tuesday, November 16, 2010

Pie

On Daily Kos, pie is an inside joke. It all started when an ad showed some offensive scene involving women throwing pies at each other. Then, Markos threw fire on the flames. To make a long story short, the whole thing blew up and eventually became a long standing inside joke, an extra answer to many diarists' polls.

Here on E10, when we talk about pie, we mean real pie, fruit and/or nut filled pie, banana cream pie, chocolate pie, mince meat pie, chicken pot pie, shepherd's pie and maybe a quiche. The only pie discussion off limits here is rhubarb. Ick.

That being said, Thanksgiving is coming up and Carl is in charge of pie. He claims some experience with apple and pecan, and he knows how to make a crust.

The Gill family traditionally opted for the ice cream and hot fudge parfait for Thanksgiving dessert. My sister and I would spend the day or so before Thanksgiving making the parfaits, hot fudge on the bottom followed by a scoop of ice cream followed by more hot fudge, more ice cream and topped off with hot fudge. We always made a few extras for post-Thanksgiving enjoyment. We'd put the mostly finished parfaits back in the freezer to await Thanksgiving whereupon we'd top each off with whipped cream and a maraschino cherry.

My experiences with pie mostly involve Mrs. Smith or Baker's Square. My other experiences with pie involve an easy bake oven circa 1967 or so. I once attempted a homemade crust for a seafood quiche per my college roommate's recipe. When she made it, the crust was fantastic, and made the whole dish. When I made it, it was mush... disgusting. I still remember her brother politely choking it down before I told him that I was well aware this was a kitchen disaster and he shouldn't bother.

So, I need to learn how to make a pie crust. Please share your pie experiences in the comments.

I loved the turkey responses and am definitely using two or three of the recipes given to me.

Below is a President who likes his pie. He asked the right questions then, why can't he do that now?

14 comments:

madame defarge said...

Here's a recipe for really good pie crust using unsalted butter. (If you're going to all the trouble of making pie crust, use real ingredients like butter. Crisco is not real food.) And here's a step-by-step recipe. Of course, you could always do this one.

Here's an idea of what to put in that pie crust.

In a large bowl, combine:
16 oz. can pumpkin
3/4 cup sugar
1/2 tsp salt
1 tsp cinnamon
1 tsp pumpkin pie spice

In a smaller bowl, combine:
3 slightly beaten eggs
3/4 cup milk
1/2 cup rum
6 oz can evaporated milk

Combine egg mixture with pumpkin mixture.

Pour into 9" uncooked pie shell.

NOTE: Crimp edges of pie crust HIGH because the filling amount is very generous.

Bake at 400 for 50 minutes (or until a toothpick inserted in pie comes out clean.

Ellen Beth Gill said...

Thanks MD. I think the key to pie crust is temperature. You have to have everything really cold which is a challenge when using butter because if it's too hard you cannot blend it, but if it's too soft, you risk it melting on you while you blend. I read somewhere that it's good to put the flour in the freezer for a while before you use it. Have you ever done that?

Ellen Beth Gill said...

What is Crisco made of anyway?

Ellen Beth Gill said...

Ok. Got this off the Crisco website:
Ingredients:
SOYBEAN OIL, FULLY HYDROGENATED PALM OIL, PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED PALM AND SOYBEAN OILS, MONO- AND DIGLYCERIDES, TBHQ AND CITRIC ACID (ANTIOXIDANTS).

Ellen Beth Gill said...

TBHQ: Not so good for rats. Hey, a tip for Bob Dold.

Ellen Beth Gill said...

MONO- AND DIGLYCERIDES = Fat rats.

Ellen Beth Gill said...

MONO- AND DIGLYCERIDES = Fat rats.

Ellen Beth Gill said...

This reminded me of this: Twinkie Deconstructed.

Ellen Beth Gill said...

This reminded me of this: Twinkie Deconstructed.

madame defarge said...

Hey Ellen, if you have a food processor, you can mix the ingredients for the crust in there -- using ice water. That helps solve the messy problem of trying to blend really cold butter. (I think your research into Crisco has definitely proved to you that you'll want to use butter.)

Anonymous said...

Fanny Farmer knows everything about baking and her original recipe book (newer editions available at the bookstore) is available online.
See http://www.bartleby.com/87/

With pastry info here
http://www.bartleby.com/87/0027.html

and filling info here
http://www.bartleby.com/87/0028.html

But don't overlook the convenience of a premade pie crust, in the refrigerator or frozen food section of the supermarket. Buy the kind already in a pietin; the other kind shrinks.

Ellen Beth Gill said...

My bit of Thanksgiving Zen:

Simplify.

1. I thought about the pre-basted Butterball, but Carl really wants a fresh turkey and I see his point. The fresh turkey avoids all the defrosting problems and everyone says they taste better. Anything less processed is probably a better idea. I'm thinking about using Warren's suggestion about cooking the bird breast down first and then turning it over for the browning, and might try some simple butter marinade injection.

2. We decided on using the pre-prepared pie crust. There's just too much else to do to worry about pie crust and I own none of the helpful equipment. Maybe I'll try one on a cold winter day when I have nothing else to do. Carl is going to fill it with his pecan pie filling recipe. My dad likes pecan pie.

3. Instead of a complicated vegetable dish, we're going to have salad.

4. Instead of sweet sweet potato casserole with marshmallow fluff (and I don't even want to know what's in that), we're going to do a simple cube and bake with a little olive oil and oregano as Carl suggested.

5. The cranberry sauce can probably be made this weekend and I'm going to do that to get it out of the way.

6. Still not completely decided on the stuffing. I'm torn between corn bread and a simple herb/savory version.

Anonymous said...

I disagree with the commenter who recommends pie crusts in the pie tins. The rolled dough pie crusts are better, in taste and texture. I've found, even when using pre-made crusts, baking it in a good pie pan makes all the difference. I use Emile Henry pottery but I'm sure there are similar pans you can use.

What's the matter with rhubarb? It's out of season anyway but is perfect when the tartness of rhubarb is combined with the sweetness of strawberries! However, pecan pie is a perfect choice!

Lauren said...

I was making stuff in my Easy Bake Oven in 1967!